Wikipedia Education Program/Education Program Leaders Workshop 2013/Notes

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Education Program Leaders Workshop, 18 April 2013[edit]


Around 35 participants
  1. Rod (WMF) [[user:]]
  2. LiAnna (WMF) user:Ldavis
  3. Tom (WMF - Brazil) user:ezalvarenga
  4. Ad Huikeshoven (WMNL) user:Ad Huikeshoven
  5. Fernanda Campagnucci (NGO Ação Educativa - Brazil) [[user:]]
  6. Antanana (WMUA) [[user:]]
  7. Charles Andrès (WMCH) user:chandres


  • Rod Dunican Global Education Program Director
    • Main topics: Wikipedia and Education
  • LiAnna Davis Global Education Program Communications Manager

9:15-10:30 Introductions[edit]

5 minutes to introduce yourself.

  1. Gabriel Thullen, Wikimedia CH. Professor in junior highschool. Students use Wikipedia and I teach them how to use it, how it works, how Wikipedia is a reference. Students can contribute themselves to understand how it works. Teacher training and explaing how teachers can use Wikipedia. WMF wants to know the metrics of what we do; I don't know. One year it can be 120 students; but students forget their username, password, you have difficulties to monitor the results.
  2. Charles Andrès. Wikimedia CH, chair. Professor in university (Biology, University of Neuchâtel); teachining Wikipedia to students, how to use wikipedia but also how to edit wikipedia as a new suport for school work. The chapter Wikimedia CH is supporting Wikimini. We receive a lot of requests from schools and universities and we are planning to recruit a person to take care of it.
  3. Fernanda Campagnucci. Wikimedia Brazil / Ação Educativa. Journalist, coordinator of the Observatory on Education - a program held by the NGO Ação Educativa - and researcher in education at the University of Sao Paulo. We are discussing with WMF to become a local partner; as an office and as a partner to develop joint projects. We have been working as an association for 20 years (advocacy, public policies, literacy, collaborations with schools/teachers/students). We identify with the Wikimedia mouvment with which we share principals.
  4. Eva Lepik. Wikimedia Estonia. We just started our programme. We are discussing with the ministry, to see how to integrate Wikipedia in the Estonian education policies.
  5. Daniel Mietchen (for Wiki Project Med). We are all involved in education: lectures in universities, collaborations with journals (scientific journals), collaborations with professional societes related to medicine.
  6. Iolanda Pensa, Wikimedia Italy/Wikimedia CH. Developing projects with Creative Commons and Wikipedia. Wikipedia Primary School.
  7. Mathias Damour, Wikimedia France. I am one of the promoter of Vikidia, an encyclopedia for 8-15 years old kids (at the moment French, Italian and Spanish). Articles are written for a specific target. I proposed on meta (m:Wikikids) that the project is recognised among the Wikimedia projects. Some people say that Wikipedia is too difficult for children; so vikidia can be a good tool for younger readers. Children provide their feedback on the vikidia.
  8. Jeromy Yu Chan, Hong Kong. Very wide use of Wikipedia but there is the need to have more contributors, to better understand how Wikipedia works. References and footnotes are an effective way to involve students. Now all the volunteers in Hong Kong are trapped in the Wikimania organisation. Potential collaborations: Government subsidide programme; support for digital disadvantage students; ICT teacher association in the directly subsidied schools (private scate schools with support of the government).
  9. Claudia Garad, Wikimedia Austria. Managing director at Wikimedia Austria. Collaboration with univiersities, presentations in schools. We don't have a strucutred programme at the moment and we would like to develop it.
  10. SusikMkr, Wikimedia Armenia. People are busy all time. Collaboration with two universities. Students are contributing but it is dififcult to include Wikipedia in the teaching process. This is what we want to do. Activites in highschool; with training every month. Lectures in different cities but it is difficult to reach them and to. Activities of the volunteers are possible on saturday and sunday but this is obviously a problem in collaborating with univerisities.
  11. Filipe, Wikimedia Serbia. Slide with years and institutions (faculties of university and highschools); growing collaborations. We started in 2006 with a pioneer programme developed directly by volunteers. We develop our activites with presentations, ICT-wiki skills development and practicals (exercises on articles). Articles are related to school subjects. We needed to create a policy with the community and we created an academia board (with 4 members). we implemented a collaboration with primary school, to train teachers. References/copyright are the most difficult part of an articles. We need to adapt our training to the differnet target (highschool students, university students, teachers...).
  12. Mile, Wikimedia Serbia. Please refer above.
  13. Mohammed Alghbban, Saudi Arabia. Our focus is on translations. From English to Arabic and from Arabi to English. We work in university: workshops for students (publishing, editing), always with a focus on translations.
  14. Sami Bin Slimah, Saudi Arabia. Chair of the English department.
  15. Thomaz D., Wikimedia Poland. They had a lot of programs on how to edit Wikipedia. Programme in primary, secondary school (focus on editing articles about local geography and issus; some effective and some )and university.
  16. X, Wikipedia Poland. We have a programme for highschool; the highschools actually came to us. We have documentation and we have several projects. We don't have a specific educational programme.
  17. Chris. Hong Kong. He is working for Wikimania. Please refer to the presentation of Jeromy Yu Chan, Hong Kong.
  18. Vojtěch Dostál, Wikimedia Czech republic. Student of biology. Many articles have been written with volunteer work with the support of ambassadors (teachers pairs). We ask teachers or we support teachers who want to contribute. And we encourage students to contribute (and not being afraid of contributing). We are connected with social media (Facebook, Twitter) and helping students online.
  19. Everton Zanella Alvarenga (Tom), WMF (consultant). We started with activities in India and I am working in the programmes in Brazil - wondered why India is not here. Education projects should have mid to long terms goals, if you try to make it quickly, you will likely fail. He believes sharing the information and the experiences is really the way we can enhance the educational programme as a whole. There is not only Wikipedia; other projects can be targeted. In Brazil we are collaborating with about 15 university professors; we made a call in the second phase of the pilot. In certain places is difficult to implement the programme only with volunteer work. We are producing and translating resources and online training (videos, trainslations, documentation in Portuguese) so that the program can become sustainable. Encouraging translations with a collaboration with a university focus on it based on the success of Egypt. The Education Program is also going to try to revitalise the WikiProject of Medicine in partner with the Ministry of Heath.
  20. Antanana, Wikimedia Ukraine. There is a coordinator of the educational programme. We implement workshops (coordinator is our executive director); official collaboratons with universities (with MOU memorandum of understanding - agreements). The official agreements are useful because teachers feel they need to have a written authorisation to assign Wikipedia articles to their students. Every university has a wikiproject page on the Ukrainan Wikipedia and templates associated to the university. In March 2013 a short-term internship could be implemented on Wikipedia (Wikipedia as the exam). Slide with metrix (universities, years, articles, media coverage).
  21. Cornelia Trefflich, Wikimedia DE. Slides. Different targets (highschool, universities, also "generation 50+"). Activities with collaborations, workshops, lectures, resources. The approach need to change according to the different tagets. It is difficult to defnine what does editor engagment mean. We mainly focus on Wikipedia rather than other projects. We mainly had short-term initiatives which have difficulty to produce long-term impact. Our goal is to increase diversity (how to engage people, thematic grpups, collaborations with less conventional institutions...)
  22. Tim Moritz, Wikimedia DE. A major issue is to work on the long-term impact. How to support engament. Different approaches in different languages. We need to concentrate also on what happens online after the training.
  23. Kiril Simeonovski, WIkimedia Madedonia.
  24. Jan Ainali Wikimedia SE, CEO. As Estonia we are working to collaborate with the ministry to include Wikipedia in school programmes. Identiifying early adopters and support them. Starting an Amabassadors programme. Have an online course for educators on Wikiversity. Programme with imigrants to help the teachers in working with them; The programme includes writing articles in their own language about Swidish culture.
  25. Kalman Hajdu, Wikimedia Hungary. Education in Hungary is very conservative. We had collaborations with professors but difficulties in involving them. In secondary school we have occasional lectures.
  26. Nidal Yousef, Jordan. I work at university. We started a programme in university. We collaborate wiht 15 highschools with the association of teachers. We develop activities in collaboration with our organisation related to Arabic language. We also created groups (5-10 students each group). We collaborate with a course related to ICT in university to include how to write an article within the programme.
  27. Faris El-Gwely, Egypt. WMF consultant. Consultant for WMF. Programme in Cairo. Now we are in 4 countries (Egpy, Soudi Arabia, Jordan, Algeria) Our aim is to increase articles in Wikipedia in Arabic.
  28. Ad Huikeshoven, Wikimedia Netherlands. We are consdering if Wikimedia NL should hire a person to coordinate the programme, what should be his/her skills and what could be the objective of such a program. We have a volunteer editor very active on Wikiversity asking for support to grow the project. ( exist for several years. Wikikids is targeted for primary schools. The project runs on its own.)
  29. Shani Evenstein, WM-IL. Universities using Wikipedia for their assignments. Training for teachers and now establishing a collaboration with the ministry of education. Support to teachers and workshops with students (in particular high schools or gifted children programs).
  30. Brian/Biosthmors. Ambassador in the US educational programme. Working on the Wiki med project.
  31. Ganesh Paudel. Nepal. We don't have a specific programme for education but we have activities in universities.
  32. Toni Sant, Wikimedia UK. Joined as a part-time member of staff in London 4 weeks ago so still fairly new to the job of Education Organizer. Main focus is currently on a conference we're planning in the UK (Oct 31-Nov 1), which will be the second EduWiki conference. We also have other projects, of course, which you can see at (but some of this work is in flux as we adjust to having a member of staff in the UK working directly on Education). EduWiki 2013 details available at

I'm also Director of Research at the University of Hull in Scarborough (which is in the North of England). Students at this university have been editing Wikipedia as one of their assessment exercises since 2010. So this experience is brought to the work I'm now doing for WMUK.

  1. Leigh Thelmadatter, Monterrey Institute of Technology and Superior Studies, Mexico City Campus I have worked with Wikimedia in my classes since 2007. This semester I work with medical English students who are writing articles in English. The campus library has sponsored two foto contests for students with results into Commons Also students do community service requirements with Wikipedia (undergrad and International Baccalaureate CAS)

More info at 10:50-11:10 Break

11:20-12:30 Support each other? How can we share the information? How can we support each other?

  • Translations
  • Videoconferencing facilities -- enabling us to support each other across distances.
  • Online trainning
  • Resources for the education program world wide (share the code!)
  • Writing skills development
  • Critical thinking (evaluting articles)
  • Research skills (references, footnotes, sources)
  • Collaboration (online collaborations, offline collaborations); how to work with students on distance (not only students in one place but in multiple places at the same time)
  • the focus of the WMF is on US and Canada; now it will be really global (WMF will recuit staff).
  • create a cooperative: to exchage ideas, documentations, programmes...
  • Expectations are different: some people want to work with small groups; others want to extend their programmes and work on large-scale.

Support from the WMF[edit]

    • Translations; Mediawiki extension for translators.
    • Courses list: MediaWiki extension for the education program:
    • Online trainings (for students, instructurs and ambassadors). An online training to guarantee scalability. (Sage Ross developer of many of those tools and online consultant)

    • Synergy with Moodle (recent Mediawiki plug-in available for Wikiversity)


1) How to decentralize the support?

1.a) @ LiAnna: if everybody in the Wikimedia movement begin to contact her, will she have time to support everybody? How to decentralize this kind of support?

2) How to have the courses extension (see here <>) on our local Wikipedia?

3) How to improve the support from the WMF?

3.a) How to improve the support from other local groups involved in the Wikimedia Education Program?

3.b) How to provide answers in a way that it is not a one-to-one relationship with WMF?

4) How to form a network of people involved in this education program?

5) Education mailing list problems:

Does the ed listserve work? Ive signed up a couple of times and I still receive nothing
Re: ed mailing list: Who are you? for me it works with 2 e-mails? Tom
Im Thelmadatter I cant get this program to connect this color with my name
Re: Please, send an e-mail to the list owners telling your problem. I hope they can quickly fix this.
Ive done that too.. Have a response saved but still nothing

Re: Well, I manage some mailings lists, but I don't know how to solve in this particular case. I will try to speak to people here tho.

I appreciate that!

7) Time. How to find the time? How to make the volunteer time efficient? How to be scalable as WMF team? the WMF will more or less remain the same but it has to do more and more.

8) Knowing what the students are doing is different from getting information on what the chapters are doing.

9) There are different perspectives involved. What students, chapters, teachers, wikipedians, wikimedians, the WMF expect is different. Dynamics of credibility, long-term impact, success of students, success of programmes...

9.a) True, who in the program in SF is an educator by profession? (Add your name) None, I believe, is the answer. (Tom) For Brazil: I barely believe in most things most experts of education says. ;D #kidding #OrNot I hope I am wrong tho. (Fernanda) Hey, Tom! We're scientists just like you. :P

10) What are the 2 job position for the education program Rod talked about?


(LiAnna) It is not only necessary to provide translations but it is necessary to localize resources. Sage Ross can be a supporter.

  • New newsletter:

- To receive an email reminder of new online newsletter, please contant me (Thelmadatter) at

  • (Thelmadatter) Need teacher workshops for teachers by teachers
  • WMF team size:

- The team at WMF is small. Three people and 2 open positions. The solutions need to take also into account the dimentions of the WMF team and what they can do.

More simple solution is promote better communication among people involved. Devolve initiative and "status" to people outside of San Fran.

  • Mentoring:

- Have a kind of mentoring for groups who wants to start a program and wants learn from others who have already started something

  • (Iolanda) Words. 1. Using the word "partner" helps the atmosphere and the way things are done -- instead of "supporter".

(Toni) WMUK looks forward to potential partnerships with other chapters on Education program developments.

2. Wikipedians, educators, wikimedians, students are not necessarly separate categories. If they cross it is a success. It is acutally what the programmes are meant for. Re: (Tom) I agree. For this reason I believe a education program should not involve only Wikipedia.

  • (Shani) Synergies among GLAMs and education can be very productive. And there are a lot of overlappings.
Re: (Tom) I completly agree.
Re: (Vojtech) Yes, but at the and of the day, someone still must do the job. And it is probably the education coordinator.

3. Moodle WMUK is actively building a Moodle project, which will (hopefully) be demonstrated at Wikimania in HK this summer.

12:30-14:00 Lunch

14:06-15:00 Success?[edit]

What does success mean?

What do you do?[edit]

  • Lectures / workshops / videos
  • Computer labs activites
  • Consulting (students)
  • Evaluation
  • Library material
  • Open Access
  • Research study curriculum
  • Outreach: student societies/organizations
  • Government agencies
  • Online training (students, professors, ambassadors)
  • Local education partner/GLAM
  • Consulting with key steak holders
  • Engage the local Wikipedia community
  • Explaining the whole movement (Free Culture)


  • Recruitment of ambassadors excited with Wikipedia: teaching editing skills is easy,but to turn a wikipedian is not

What are target audiences of educational activities?[edit]

  • students
  • education administration; educators
  • women
  • elderly people; former teachers / scientists, writers etc.
  • thematic groups
  • cultural centers
  • government agencies
  • politicans (position/oposition)
  • social activists
  • prisioners
  • journalists/media
  • libraries
  • ...

-match the needs !

What does success mean?

15:00-15:15 Break Goals :

  • Increase number of editors/ quality of content

various goals of education activities:

  • retention
  • workflow of people
  • increase number of editors
  • open license
  • Arabic quality/amount
  • increase diversity of participants (contents,discussion, communities)

goals-vision-objectives? (definitions?)

  • find as many different ways of students to participate (that is not editing)
  • address the fact that 57%copied unchecked on WP
  • engaging students in a group work translation
  • students should learn something
  • peer review each others work (collaborative work)
  • integration into education from an early age on
  • to not reinvent the (same) wheel
  • make a self-sustainable education program
  • "Let's change the world"

what type of content do you want to add?

open licences (in a broader sense) --> OPEN ! we are part of an "open" eco-system See :) and

15:00-16:30 More success?

16:30-17:00 Wrap up/next steps