Wikimedia:Village pump
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Outreach wiki shutting down?[edit]
I've seen it stated on an email list that this wiki's days are numbered. Is this true? And if so, what is the recommended approach for migrating important pages to Meta Wiki or elsewhere? -Pete (talk) 17:15, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Peteforsyth: This has been discussed and rejected by the community. What is the list? Koavf (talk) 07:12, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Koavf: March 19 on Wikimedia-L, re: Wikipedia & Education User Group. -Pete (talk) 17:21, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thread. Odd. I don't recall a consensus for this. Maybe I'll have to attend. Thanks, Pete. Koavf (talk) 19:30, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- For future reference: this e-mail mentions it. To me this feels a bit weird, as I am editing this wiki many times and got no request to join in the meeting. Something that will be needed as the infrastructure of thousands of pages I maintain needs to be moved to Meta. Romaine (talk) 23:18, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thread. Odd. I don't recall a consensus for this. Maybe I'll have to attend. Thanks, Pete. Koavf (talk) 19:30, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Koavf: March 19 on Wikimedia-L, re: Wikipedia & Education User Group. -Pete (talk) 17:21, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Recent edits by TMenang[edit]
Can an admin please take a look at Special:Contributions/TMenang, specifically the creation of pages about user groups that aren't used here on outreachwiki? I left them a note on their talk page, but they have continued. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 22:34, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- @TMenang: Some of these creations seem confusing at best. E.g. you made Category:Pages using RFC magic links, which is something that is automatically generated via MediaWiki if someone uses a certain syntax. So I can see the value in it not being a redlink, just in case someone actually does make an RFC magic link. I do not see the value in making it a subcategory of Category:Stewards (???), particularly since that is a usergroup at Meta. Nor do I see the value in linking to the equivalent category on Commons. Can you explain more of what your goal is here with these page creations? Koavf (talk) 00:52, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- (edit conflcited) @TMenang: I can't see why these pages would be needed, any local descriptions for global or non-standard groups can point to interwiki links if needed - is there another good reason these are needed before we just speedy delete them as G7 (irrelevant here)? Xaosflux (talk) 00:55, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux, Koavf: still continuing, eg Edu-portaal is an unneeded redirect to Education (unlikely search term), as well as more interwiki redirects for user groups - Wikimedia:Account creators and Wikimedia:Importers, both of which were previously deleted per this discussion. --DannyS712 (talk) 16:35, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- Update: account globally locked as an LTA, so no more edits to come, just cleaning up the old ones --DannyS712 (talk) 06:19, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Archiving[edit]
I've moved most of the threads (which were fairly old) to Wikimedia:Village pump/Archive 7 --DannyS712 (talk) 08:44, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Partnership proposal between Kindle and Wikipedia and its affiliated projects[edit]
ATTENTION: This proposal aims to improve Wikipedia as a whole, on the recommendation of members of the Portuguese-speaking Wikipedia I moved this request to this section. Therefore any terms used here are mainly intended for Wikipedia, but, due to this, the nature of the request requires it to be proposed here. NOTE: Sorry if the English is a little bad. I come by means of this proposal that we move to create a partnership between Kindle (Amazon's library) and Wikipedia Lusophone. Benefits: Access to thousands of books, which could help reference thousands of Lusophone Wikipedia articles (Nazism, Mao Tse Tung etc.) and makes it easier to find sources for articles from any wikipedia. Like any proposal, this one also has some flaws, they are: Possible deviation from the end (ie users can use the Kindle for their own benefit, reading books but not using them as a quote). To correct this, we could give administrators, self-reviewers and bureaucrats access to books. But we created another problem with this, we would be "barring" non-users, self-reviewers, bureaucrats and administrators from having access to books. Solution: create a tab to request access to the Kindle. Administrators / bureaucrats can evaluate requests with "support" and "not support" (just as is done with self-review requests). Below is a summary of what I propose for better understanding.
Proposal: Create a partnership between Kindle (Amazon's subscription library) and Wikipedia.
Proposal 2: Grant free access to Kindle for Administrators, Self-Reviewers and Bureaucrats.
Proposal 3: Create a tab for requests for access to the Kindle for those "outside" these groups (exactly as it is done to obtain self-review status).
Purpose of the proposal: To use the books available on Kindle to reference Wikipedia articles.
OBS: I emphasize that this proposal is mainly aimed at Wikipedia, but as this request is of a more complex nature I had to do it here.
OBS 2: I understand that it can be very complicated to achieve this, but it is easy to try. If it works out we can expand our reliability and reliability even more, and we can reference many contents of this wonderful project, which is Wikipedia: The free encyclopedia.
OBS 3: If this place is not the right place to make this proposal, I ask you to guide me.
Graciously, --Editor Master Plus (talk) 21:17, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 1[edit]
Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 1, June 2021Read the full newsletter
Welcome to the first issue of Universal Code of Conduct News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code, and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.
Please note, this is the first issue of UCoC Newsletter which is delivered to all subscribers and projects as an announcement of the initiative. If you want the future issues delivered to your talk page, village pumps, or any specific pages you find appropriate, you need to subscribe here.
You can help us by translating the newsletter issues in your languages to spread the news and create awareness of the new conduct to keep our beloved community safe for all of us. Please add your name here if you want to be informed of the draft issue to translate beforehand. Your participation is valued and appreciated.
- Affiliate consultations – Wikimedia affiliates of all sizes and types were invited to participate in the UCoC affiliate consultation throughout March and April 2021. (continue reading)
- 2021 key consultations – The Wikimedia Foundation held enforcement key questions consultations in April and May 2021 to request input about UCoC enforcement from the broader Wikimedia community. (continue reading)
- Roundtable discussions – The UCoC facilitation team hosted two 90-minute-long public roundtable discussions in May 2021 to discuss UCoC key enforcement questions. More conversations are scheduled. (continue reading)
- Phase 2 drafting committee – The drafting committee for the phase 2 of the UCoC started their work on 12 May 2021. Read more about their work. (continue reading)
- Diff blogs – The UCoC facilitators wrote several blog posts based on interesting findings and insights from each community during local project consultation that took place in the 1st quarter of 2021. (continue reading)
Server switch[edit]
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The Wikimedia Foundation tests the switch between its first and secondary data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.
Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.
You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.
- You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, 29 June 2021. The test will start at 14:00 UTC (07:00 PDT, 10:00 EDT, 15:00 WEST/BST, 16:00 CEST, 19:30 IST, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 02:00 NZST on Wednesday 30 June).
- If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.
Other effects:
- Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
- There will be code freezes for the week of June 28. Non-essential code deployments will not happen.
SGrabarczuk (WMF) 01:19, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
Request for comment notification[edit]
Here is a link to a RFC on Meta concerning all Wikimedia projects. Lionel Scheepmans (talk) 23:21, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey will happen in January[edit]
Hello everyone,
We hope all of you are as well and safe as possible during these trying times! We wanted to share some news about a change to the Community Wishlist Survey 2022. We would like to hear your opinions as well.
Summary:
We will be running the Community Wishlist Survey 2022 in January 2022. We need more time to work on the 2021 wishes. We also need time to prepare some changes to the Wishlist 2022. In the meantime, you can use a dedicated sandbox to leave early ideas for the 2022 wishes.
Proposing and wish-fulfillment will happen during the same year[edit]
In the past, the Community Tech team has run the Community Wishlist Survey for the following year in November of the prior year. For example, we ran the Wishlist for 2021 in November 2020. That worked well a few years ago. At that time, we used to start working on the Wishlist soon after the results of the voting were published.
However, in 2021, there was a delay between the voting and the time when we could start working on the new wishes. Until July 2021, we were working on wishes from the Wishlist for 2020.
We hope having the Wishlist 2022 in January 2022 will be more intuitive. This will also give us time to fulfill more wishes from the 2021 Wishlist.
Encouraging wider participation from historically excluded communities[edit]
We are thinking how to make the Wishlist easier to participate in. We want to support more translations, and encourage under-resourced communities to be more active. We would like to have some time to make these changes.
A new space to talk to us about priorities and wishes not granted yet[edit]
We will have gone 365 days without a Wishlist. We encourage you to approach us. We hope to hear from you in the talk page, but we also hope to see you at our bi-monthly Talk to Us meetings! These will be hosted at two different times friendly to time zones around the globe.
We will begin our first meeting September 15th at 23:00 UTC. More details about the agenda and format coming soon!
Brainstorm and draft proposals before the proposal phase[edit]
If you have early ideas for wishes, you can use the new Community Wishlist Survey sandbox. This way, you will not forget about these before January 2022. You will be able to come back and refine your ideas. Remember, edits in the sandbox don't count as wishes!
Feedback[edit]
- What should we do to improve the Wishlist pages?
- How would you like to use our new sandbox?
- What, if any, risks do you foresee in our decision to change the date of the Wishlist 2022?
- What will help more people participate in the Wishlist 2022?
Answer on the talk page (in any language you prefer) or at our Talk to Us meetings.
SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:22, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Server switch[edit]
Read this message in another language • Please help translate to your language
The Wikimedia Foundation tests the switch between its first and secondary data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.
They will switch all traffic back to the primary data center on Tuesday, 14 September 2021.
Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.
You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.
- You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, 14 September 2021. The test will start at 14:00 UTC (07:00 PDT, 10:00 EDT, 15:00 WEST/BST, 16:00 CEST, 19:30 IST, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 02:00 NZST on Wednesday, 15 September).
- If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.
Other effects:
- Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
- We expect the code deployments to happen as any other week. However, some case-by-case code freezes could punctually happen if the operation require them afterwards.
SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:45, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Talk to the Community Tech[edit]
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Hello!
As we have recently announced, we, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on September 15th, 23:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.
Agenda
- How we prioritize the wishes to be granted
- Why we decided to change the date from November 2021 to January 2022
- Update on the disambiguation and the real-time preview wishes
- Questions and answers
Format
The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (first three points in the agenda) will be given in English.
We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.
Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.
Invitation link
- Join online
- Meeting ID: 898 2861 5390
- One tap mobile
- +16465588656,,89828615390# US (New York)
- +16699006833,,89828615390# US (San Jose)
- Dial by your location
See you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 03:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC)